Bob Duff: Don't hold your breath awaiting Fedorov retirement ceremony Wings have no current plans to retire Sergei Fedorov's No. 91 jersey.

im pretty relieved, i figured the wings front office felt pressure to hang 91 now that hes retired and all this has been happening with him being inducted and i dont think they should retire 91

i love the guy, and i have no ill feelings toward him but the rafters are reserved for the end all be all greatest red wings of all history

im pretty relieved, i figured the wings front office felt pressure to hang 91 now that hes retired and all this has been happening with him being inducted and i dont think they should retire 91

i love the guy, and i have no ill feelings toward him but the rafters are reserved for the end all be all greatest red wings of all history
- digitalbath

I tend to agree but he has the same number of Cups as Stevie and A Hart trophy as a Wing ( which neither Nick or Stevie has).
I mean he has a legit case eventually.

im pretty relieved, i figured the wings front office felt pressure to hang 91 now that hes retired and all this has been happening with him being inducted and i dont think they should retire 91

i love the guy, and i have no ill feelings toward him but the rafters are reserved for the end all be all greatest red wings of all history
- digitalbath

How is he not one of the greatest Wings of all time ?

im pretty relieved, i figured the wings front office felt pressure to hang 91 now that hes retired and all this has been happening with him being inducted and i dont think they should retire 91

i love the guy, and i have no ill feelings toward him but the rafters are reserved for the end all be all greatest red wings of all history
- digitalbath


I tend to agree but he has the same number of Cups as Stevie and A Hart trophy as a Wing ( which neither Nick or Stevie has).
I mean he has a legit case eventually.
-Medecine Man

if Steve Y and Nick L have their numbers retired, then so to should Fedorov. They don't win anything without him, and he left without rancor. Why should he have had to accept their offer. He was a free agent.

Red Kelly was a different story. He did had issues with the team... Not Fedorov. He didn't say anything or do anything bad to the club itself. Why make the guy out to be a bad guy...

if Steve Y and Nick L have their numbers retired, then so to should Fedorov. They don't win anything without him, and he left without rancor. Why should he have had to accept their offer. He was a free agent.
- kaptaan

Well, not sure if you remember but he held out when we was a RFA for half the season in '98 I believe after signing an offer sheet with the Hurricanes.

Some of this is forgotten in the public but along with jumping ship for California to make his highlights even brighter (sic) those two things add up.

You have to realize that the current make up of the organization values loyalty to a fault. I mean look at the Cleary ordeal. One also points to keeping Cheilios around past his expiration date which eventually cost the team a 1st (we lost Quincy to the Kings thru waviers and then cost a 1st to get him back from the Avs later on).

I don't see the organization bending over backwards for a player that doesn't have the same sense of loyalty (like Stevie and Nick) when it comes to something as monumental as putting a jersey in the rafters.

if Steve Y and Nick L have their numbers retired, then so to should Fedorov. They don't win anything without him, and he left without rancor. Why should he have had to accept their offer. He was a free agent.
- kaptaan

If we're going by this might as well retire Shanahan too cause they wouldn't have won without him. Again I don't think Fedorov shouldn't be in the hall of fame. He's a superstar but his rfa stuff. Holding out on contract for more. Leaving Detroit for California for less money.

The people who should be retired in the rafters. Are the guys that when you ask "should they retire his number?" EVERYONE thinks. Your a retard for even asking.. Of course they retire Lidstrom or Yzerman.

Fedorov doesn't have that. Had he stayed here. And not left for less money or even in his words acted like "it's just a business" which I can respect and again I don't dislike him. But I'm just PERSONALLY against hanging 91.

If we're going by this might as well retire Shanahan too cause they wouldn't have won without him. Again I don't think Fedorov shouldn't be in the hall of fame. He's a superstar but his rfa stuff. Holding out on contract for more. Leaving Detroit for California for less money.

The people who should be retired in the rafters. Are the guys that when you ask "should they retire his number?" EVERYONE thinks. Your a retard for even asking.. Of course they retire Lidstrom or Yzerman.

Fedorov doesn't have that. Had he stayed here. And not left for less money or even in his words acted like "it's just a business" which I can respect and again I don't dislike him. But I'm just PERSONALLY against hanging 91.
- digitalbath

I'm with you on this one. They're is no doubt that Fedorov was a great player and deserves to be in the HOF. But having your jersey hanging from the rafters should be even harder then the HOF. Those choices should be no-brainers. If there's a debate, than no, give him a plaque or something.

I love Federov, one of my all time favorites... But i don't think he should have his number retired either. That being said, if they decided to i wouldn't have a problem with it at all.

"Well, not sure if you remember but he held out when we was a RFA for half the season in '98 I believe after signing an offer sheet with the Hurricanes.

Some of this is forgotten in the public but along with jumping ship for California to make his highlights even brighter (sic) those two things add up.

You have to realize that the current make up of the organization values loyalty to a fault. I mean look at the Cleary ordeal. One also points to keeping Cheilios around past his expiration date which eventually cost the team a 1st (we lost Quincy to the Kings thru waviers and then cost a 1st to get him back from the Avs later on).

I don't see the organization bending over backwards for a player that doesn't have the same sense of loyalty (like Stevie and Nick) when it comes to something as monumental as putting a jersey in the rafters."

For the record: Nick Lidstrom considered leaving the NHL and Detroit to play in Sweden prior to the contract he signed in 2003 because of disputes. Even "The Perfect Human" had issues with this organization at one time, and he's a no-brainer first-ballot HOF'er.

"Well, not sure if you remember but he held out when we was a RFA for half the season in '98 I believe after signing an offer sheet with the Hurricanes.

Some of this is forgotten in the public but along with jumping ship for California to make his highlights even brighter (sic) those two things add up.

You have to realize that the current make up of the organization values loyalty to a fault. I mean look at the Cleary ordeal. One also points to keeping Cheilios around past his expiration date which eventually cost the team a 1st (we lost Quincy to the Kings thru waviers and then cost a 1st to get him back from the Avs later on).

I don't see the organization bending over backwards for a player that doesn't have the same sense of loyalty (like Stevie and Nick) when it comes to something as monumental as putting a jersey in the rafters."

For the record: Nick Lidstrom considered leaving the NHL and Detroit to play in Sweden prior to the contract he signed in 2003 because of disputes. Even "The Perfect Human" had issues with this organization at one time, and he's a no-brainer first-ballot HOF'er.
- TwoPieceFeed

Hmmm. Not really. Never a dispute. Nick never held out. There were some under the radar mentions of not signing in the media but do you remember why? Wasn't because of $$.
It was so his kids could go to school in Sweden. Big, BIG difference. Plus he signed..(on time and played until he was 40 BTW).

Hmmm. Not really. Never a dispute. Nick never held out. There were some under the radar mentions of not signing in the media but do you remember why? Wasn't because of $$.
It was so his kids could go to school in Sweden. Big, BIG difference. Plus he signed..(on time and played until he was 40 BTW).
- MedicineMan

That's not what happened in 2003. You recollection is of a more-recent issue.

That's not what happened in 2003. You recollection is of a more-recent issue.
- TwoPieceFeed

Ok...he may not have thought of leaving for Sweden in '03 but enlighten me regarding Nick's "dispute" in '03 and all the details behind it.

That's not what happened in 2003. You recollection is of a more-recent issue.
- TwoPieceFeed

Maybe this will help you. Talk started in '99 at the end of one of his contracts. Check out near the end of the article regarding his ideas behind jumping ship.

http://sports.espn.go.com...=lebrun_pierre&id=5918807

Don't get me wrong. Big fan of 91, but definitely no comparison regarding those two when it comes to wanting/leaving the organization for greener pastures.

Maybe this will help you. Check out near the end of the article regarding his ideas behind jumping ship.

http://sports.espn.go.com...=lebrun_pierre&id=5918807

Don't get me wrong. Big fan of 91, but definitely no comparison regarding those two when it comes to wanting/leaving the organization for greener pastures.
- MedicineMan

Did you not read that I stated your recollection was of a more-recent issue..?

Did you not read that I stated your recollection was of a more-recent issue..?
- TwoPieceFeed

Do you mean of Lidstrom wanting to go back to Sweden for his kids?

Sure did. Take a look at the link. Nick talks about wanting to go back in '99 along with 2010. I remember the '99 talk quite vividly.

I am interested though Lidstrom's '03 issue with the organization you mentioned. Or could it have been with the league in general and the lockout when his salary was cut because of the salary cap you are talking about.

Did you not read that I stated your recollection was of a more-recent issue..?
- TwoPieceFeed

Yeah dude. Read the bottom of the article. It was 99 when he thought about going home. I never remember Lidstrom specifically holding out for money. Or especially leaving Detroit for less money like 91.

Did you not read that I stated your recollection was of a more-recent issue..?
- TwoPieceFeed

Not wanting to get into a ping pong match, but THINKING of going back to Sweden (for family considerations) is much different than what Sergi did.

He has tough competition with this generation of RW's to compare to with 19 and 5. Both playing 20 years plus in the organization and were captains. I think the Red Kelly story is very applicable. Don't sh*t where you eat really. I mean 91 has the numbers, but it's more than numbers to get one's number up there.

One also tends to forget the extra mile organizations had to take to get players out of Russia back then. Wings had to "steal" him when the Worlds were going on in Vancouver In '90. I'm sure the organization remembers that.

One also tends to forget the Karmonos/Illitch rivalry. Karmonos owned Hurricaines signed him to the big offer sheet. More than the Wings wanted to pay but they had to match.

Finally, Sergi taking 10mil less to go to another team in the WC that was deemed to have less talent I'm sure left a real bad taste.

Holding off on kvetching about the Abdelkader deal until the inevitable new blog.